TECHNICAL FIELD

The invention relates to an arrangement for positioning a camera relative to a user.

The camera may be a so-called action camera, ie a compact digital camera designed for recording action. It typically allows continuous capture of the action without having to interact with the camera.

Such an action camera is typically worn or mounted in such a way that it can shoot from the point of view of the shooter. Some examples of common places to mount an action camera are on a hat or helmet, on the chest, or on the handlebars of a bike or similar vehicle. The invention is however directed to an arrangement allowing the camera to look back onto the user and record his or her actions. Especially, the arrangement is adapted to allow positioning the camera at a height in the vicinity of or above a user's head and at a distance from the user's head in a way that a still or moving image may be created of the surroundings and with the user in the foreground from above. Such a view may be called a birds-eye view, a 3rd person view or a third person camera angle.

Further, the arrangement is adapted for positioning the camera in such a way that the user may be free to perform an activity, such as walking, running, climbing, cycling etc while the camera is operative capturing the image. Further, the arrangement is especially adapted for positioning the camera behind the user for creating an image of the surroundings in front of and/or below the user's head and covering at least a part of the user's head (and possibly a part of the body) in the foreground while he or she may be facing away from the camera.

PRIOR ART

An arrangement is known that comprises an elongated member that is adapted for securing the camera at a first end in its longitudinal direction via a first ball joint and adapted to be connected to a support structure at a second end opposite the first end via a second ball joint. The elongated member is adapted to be arrangeable in different shapes by a user for arranging the camera in a desired position. Further, the support structure may be of a generally flat rectangular design and adapted to be secured to the user on a backpack or other equipment. SUMMARY

One object of the invention is to provide a camera positioning arrangement that is of low weight and/or consumes a small space in a transport mode and that is easy to assemble to an operational mode for the user.

The object is achieved by an arrangement according to claim 1. Thus, it is achieved by an arrangement for positioning a camera relative to a user, wherein the arrangement comprises an elongated support device that is adapted for securing the camera at a first end in its longitudinal direction and adapted to be hand manoeuvred by the user at a second end opposite the first end allowing control of a position of the camera by the user via the hand manoeuvring in an operational mode with the camera in an operational position behind and/or above the user and/or allowing securing the second end of the elongated support device in a fixed position relative to the user in the operational mode, wherein the arrangement further comprises a camera position limiting member that is adapted to be connected to the elongated support device at a first connection point at a distance from the second end and to a user equipment adapted to be carried by the user at a second connection point, wherein a length of the camera position limiting member in an extension direction between the first connection point and the second connection point defines a limit for the camera position.

The camera position limiting member creates conditions for the user to easy assemble the arrangement to an operational mode without support from further persons. Especially, the camera position limiting member creates conditions for the user to easy assemble the arrangement to an operational mode with the camera in an operational position behind and/or above the user. According to one exemplary assembly, the user may activate the camera and secure the camera to the elongated support device while manually holding the camera in front of the user. The user may then grab the elongated support device and push it upwards and/or backwards while the camera position limiting member is connected to the elongated support device at the first connection point and to the user at the second connection point until the limit is reached forming a stop for the movement. The camera position and view may then be adjusted or fine-tuned by the user hand manoeuvring the second end of the elongated support device and/or the camera position limiting member. More specifically, the user may control a position and/or angle of the elongated support device via hand-maneouvring. Further, the arrangement allows for a selective positioning of the camera in a space defined by the camera position limiting member by controlling a position and/or angle of the elongated support device by the user hand manoeuvring the second end of the elongated support device.

According to one example, the elongated support device forms a rigid structure between the first end and the second end in its longitudinal direction. According to one example, the rigid structure defines the first end and the second end of the elongated support device.

According to one example, the camera position limiting member is adapted to define a maximum length and it may be moved so that the first connection point may travel in an arc-shaped or spherical path around the second connection point when the camera position limiting member is secured at the second connection point. Since the camera position limiting member is adapted to be connected to the elongated support device at the first connection point, the freedom of movement of the camera will be limited accordingly.

According to one embodiment example, the camera position limiting member is adapted to be arranged in an operative extended state, in which it is capable of limiting the camera position, and in a non-operative non-extended state. The camera position limiting member may be formed by a rigid or flexible structure. According to a preferred example, the camera position limiting member comprises a flexible member, such as a cord, web, fabric or similar. Such a flexible member may be arranged in an extended state and in a non- extended/retracted state. It creates further conditions for a low weight and/or small space consumption of the arrangement in the transport mode.

According to one example, the arrangement is operated in a way that the second end of the elongated support device is freely movable in a three-dimensional space by the user hand manoeuvring. It creates conditions for multiple potential positions of the camera and associated view directions.

According to one example, the elongated support device has a length extension between the first end and the second end of at least one meter allowing the user to manoeuver the second end of the rigid elongated device by hand from a height position at the hips of the user while the camera is at a height position in the vicinity of or above the user's head.

Further, the arrangement provides for multiple points of support of the camera, that create conditions for a stable support of the camera in the operational state reducing the risk of distortion in use. More specifically, a first point of support may be achieved via the user's hand gripping the second end of the elongated support device and a second point of support is achieved via the camera position limiting member being adapted to be connected to the user at the second connection point.

According to one example, the elongated support device is adapted to carry a main part of a weight of the camera and the camera position limiting member is adapted to support and/or stabilize the elongated support device for holding the camera in the operational position.

According to an embodiment example, the camera position limiting member is adapted to be connected to the elongated support device at the first connection point in the vicinity of the first end of the elongated support device. It creates further conditions for a stable operational position of the camera.

According to one example, the elongated support device and the camera position limiting member may be oriented in a way that their longitudinal directions meet at an apex in the vicinity of the camera when the camera is in its operational position. Especially, each one of the elongated support device and the camera position limiting member may have a generally straight extension when the camera is in the operational position.

According to a further embodiment example, the elongated support device comprises at least one hand grip portion arranged at the second end.

According to a further embodiment example, the elongated support device comprises two spaced hand grip portions adapted for a simultaneous manoeuvring of the second end by the user's right hand and the user's left hand. It creates further conditions for a stable position of the camera since triple points of support may thereby be created. It further creates conditions for easy manoeuvring of the camera. According to a further embodiment example, the elongated support device comprises a connector and at least one elongated rigid member, wherein the connector comprises a first connection structure for a rigid attachment of the camera and a second connection structure for a rigid attachment of a first end of the at least one elongated rigid member.

The connector creates further conditions for an optimized solution with regard to weight, space consumption during transport and ease of setup and operation. The connector may be formed by a body and the connector's second connection structure may comprise at least one opening in the body adapted for receipt of the first end of the at least one elongated rigid member. According to one example, the at least one elongated rigid member may have a pointy first end, wherein the opening in the body may be formed with an inwards tapering shape corresponding in shape and size to the pointy first end of the at least one elongated rigid member for a tight and secure connection.

According to one example, the at least one elongated rigid member may have a straight shape. Further, the at least one elongated rigid member may be formed by a stick or pole or similar. Further, the at least one elongated rigid member may be adapted to be folded or otherwise reduced in size, such as via a telescoping arrangement, for a transport mode (in which it is non-operative).

According to a further embodiment example, the elongated support device comprises two elongated rigid members, wherein each one of the two elongated rigid members comprises one of the hand grip portions, and the connector's second connection structure is adapted for a rigid attachment of the first end of each one of the two elongated rigid members.

According to one example, the arrangement may be adapted so that the two elongated rigid members are arranged in a diverging relationship in a direction away from the connector so that one of the grip portions may be operated by the user's right hand and the other grip portion may be simultaneously operated by the user’s left hand. According to one example, each one of the two elongated rigid members has a length allowing it to be hand-manoeuvred from a position at the user's hip while the camera is in its operational position at a height level of the user's head or above. According to one example, the two elongated rigid members are identical in size and shape. According to an alternative example, the two elongated rigid members are mirrored in relation to each other.

According to a further embodiment example, the at least one elongated rigid member comprises a walking stick, wherein the walking stick is connected to the connector at an end of the walking stick adapted for ground engagement. Use of a walking stick, or preferably two walking sticks, in the arrangement creates further conditions for an optimized solution with regard to weight, space consumption during transport especially with regard to performing an activity where use of walking sticks is preferred. For example, during hiking, the walking sticks may be used by a hiker in the way intended - for ground engagement supporting the hiker when proceeding in the terrain. When the hiker desires to film a specific part of the hike, such as when a specifically beautiful scenery is reached, he or she may use the walking sticks in the arrangement for positioning the camera. When the film is finished, the arrangement may be disassembled again and the walking sticks again used for their intended purpose by the hiker. Accordingly, the arrangement provides for a dual use of the walking sticks, wherein the walking sticks are used for the camera positioning arrangement in a situation when they are not needed for supporting the hiker when proceeding in the terrain.

Accordingly, this embodiment example provides for a dual use of the walking sticks, wherein no weight is added for the elongated rigid member in a use case, such as hiking, where the walking sticks are used during the hiking anyway.

According to a further embodiment example, the connector comprises a third connection structure defining the first connection point for the camera position limiting member. The connector may be formed by a body and the connector's third connection structure may comprise at least one opening in the body adapted for receipt of a portion of the camera position limiting member. More specifically, the opening may be a through-hole in the body.

According to a further embodiment example, the camera position limiting member is adapted to be connected to the user at two second connection points that are spaced from each other in a width direction of the user. It creates further conditions for a stable support of the elongated support device. According to a further embodiment example, the camera position limiting member is adapted for an adjustable length in its extension direction between the first connection point and the second connection point. It creates conditions for setting the limit for the camera position to different extents and thereby providing more options for the camera positioning.

According to a further embodiment example, the arrangement comprises the equipment adapted to be carried by the user, wherein the equipment comprises a first connection means for establishing a holder for the elongated support device and a second connection means for establishing the second connection point of the camera position limiting member.

According to one example, the arrangement is adapted for securing the second end of the elongated support device in a fixed position relative to the user. More specifically, the second end of the elongated support device may be arrangeable in a fixed position relative to an equipment, such as a backpack hip belt, carried by the user via the holder. In this way, the user may have both hands free, which may be required in activities like climbing and cycling.

According to one embodiment example, the first connection means comprises a sleeve for receipt of the second end of the elongated support device. According to one example, the sleeve is adapted to form an end stop for the elongated support device thereby maintaining the camera in a desired height position relative to the user.

According to one example, the equipment comprises a support belt for the user's hips and wherein the first connection means is connected to the support belt.

According to one example, the equipment is adapted so that the second connection point of the camera position limiting member may be arranged in the vicinity of a shoulder of the user. More specifically, the equipment may comprise at least one shoulder strap, wherein the shoulder strap may have a loop projecting in a way that it is accessible for receipt of a portion of the camera position limiting member. The loop may be formed by a rigid piece, such as made in plastic or metal, that is attached to the shoulder strap. According to one example, the equipment may comprise a backpack. Since backpacks are often used in activities like hiking and climbing, it is effective to combine it in the arrangement. According to an alternative, the equipment may be formed by a harness and hip support belt in a one-piece unit, or the harness and hip support belt in separate units. According to a further alternative, the equipment may be formed only by a hip support belt.

A further object of the invention is to provide a connector that creates conditions for the arrangement being of low weight and/or consuming a small space in a transport mode and provides for an easy assembly of the arrangement to an operational mode for the user.

The object is achieved by a connector according to claim 22. Thus, it is achieved by a connector for positioning a camera relative to a user, wherein the connector comprises a first connection structure for a rigid attachment of the camera and a second connection structure for a rigid attachment of a first end of at least one elongated rigid member that is adapted to be hand manoeuvred by the user at a second end opposite the first end allowing control of a position of the camera by the user via the hand manoeuvring.

The connector may be formed by a body. It may be formed in two pieces, which are then secured to each other via some fastening means, such as bolt connections. According to an alternative, the body may be formed in a one-piece unit. The body may be formed in a thermoplastic material and may be moulded. According to an alternative, the body may be 3D printed.

According to one embodiment example, the connector's second connection structure comprises at least one opening for receiving the first end of the at least one elongated rigid member.

According to a further embodiment example, the connector's second connection structure is adapted for a rigid attachment of the first end of each one of two elongated rigid members adapted for a simultaneous manoeuvring of the second end by the user's right hand and the user's left hand. According to a further embodiment example, the at least one elongated rigid member comprises a walking stick, wherein the second connection structure of the connector is adapted for being connected to the walking stick at an end of the walking stick adapted for ground engagement.

According to a further embodiment example, the connector's second connection structure comprises at least one opening and at least one adapter tube, wherein the connector opening is designed to receive the adapter tube, wherein the adapter tube comprises an interior opening adapted to receive the first end of the elongated rigid member. Accordingly, the arrangement of an adapter tube creates further conditions for fitting walking sticks (or other elongated rigid elements) of different dimensions to the connector.

According to a further embodiment example, the connector comprises a third connection structure defining a first connection point for a camera position limiting member that is adapted to be connected to the user at a second connection point, wherein a length of the camera position limiting member in an extension direction between the first connection point and the second connection point defines a limit for the camera position.

According to a further embodiment example, the camera position limiting member is adapted to be connected to the user at two second connection points that are spaced from each other in a width direction of the user.

According to a further embodiment example, the camera position limiting member comprises a cord extending between the first connection point and the second connection point. It creates conditions for a camera view comprising the user’s head and shoulders without significantly giving a negative visual impression of the captured image.

For example, the camera position limiting member may comprise two cord sections, wherein each cord section extends from the connector and connects to one of the two connection points. Such an arrangement creates further conditions for a stable arrangement. Especially, according to an example where the camera position limiting member is connected to the user at two second connection points at shoulder height and the elongated rigid members are connected to the user at hip height provides for a stable setup of the arrangement. Thus, the two cord sections may be arranged in a diverging configuration in a direction from the connector towards the user. Also the elongated rigid members may be arranged in a diverging configuration in a direction from the connector towards the user.

According to an alternative design of the camera position limiting member, it may have a significant extension in two perpendicular directions in a plane, ie have a flat structure. More specifically, the camera position limiting member may comprise a net or other type of flexible/collapsible structure, such as a sheet of fabric. Accordingly, the camera position limiting member may provide for multiple second connection points or even a continuous connection along a line between two end connection points.

According to a further embodiment example, the camera position limiting member is adapted to be arranged in an operative extended state, in which it is capable of limiting the camera position, and in a non-operative non-extended state. For example, the camera position limiting member may be formed by a cord, that is operative to form the limit for the camera position in an extended state, in which it extends along a straight line. If the camera is positioned closer to the second connection point via hand manoeuvring the elongated device than a maximum extension of the cord, the cord may slack and instead extend along a curved line, wherein it is non-operative with regard to supporting the camera. Such a design of the camera position limiting member creates conditions for a low space requirement of the camera position limiting member in a packed/folded state.

According to a further embodiment example, the camera position limiting member is adapted for an adjustable length in its extension direction between the first connection point and the second connection point. It provides for setting the camera in different positions without manoeuvring the elongated device. According to one example, the camera position limiting member is adapted for an adjustable length in its extension direction while the camera is in its operative position, ie while the camera position limiting member is operative in supporting the elongated device to position the camera.

Further advantages and advantageous features of the invention are disclosed in the following description and in the dependent claims.

BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS

With reference to the appended drawings, below follows a more detailed description of embodiments of the invention cited as examples. In the drawings:

Fig. 1 is a perspective view from the side of a user while hiking with the arrangement setup according to a first embodiment,

Fig. 2 is a view from behind of the user according to fig. 1 ,

Fig. 3 is a view of a field of vision of the camera according to fig. 1 ,

Fig. 4 is a perspective view from the side of the arrangement in fig. 1 associated to a backpack indicating adjustability for different camera positions via a cord that has an adjustable length,

Fig. 5 is a side view of the arrangement in fig. 4 schematically indicating the adjustability, Fig. 6 is a side view of the arrangement in fig. 1 schematically indicating adjustability for different camera positions via manually angling a walking stick while a length of the cord is constant,

Fig. 7 is a view of a foldable walking stick comprised in the arrangement in fig. 1 ,

Fig. 8 is a view of an extendable walking stick according to an alternative embodiment,

Fig. 9A is a perspective view from above of a connector comprised in the arrangement in fig. 1 ,

Fig. 9B is a top view of the connector in fig. 9A,

Fig. 9C is a side view of the connector in fig. 9A,

Fig. 10 is an exploded view of the connector in fig. 9A,

Fig. 11 is a perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 9A with a cord and snaphook applied,

Fig. 12 is a perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 11 with a first part of camera mount applied,

Fig. 13 is a perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 12 with a second part of camera mount applied,

Fig. 14 is a perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 13 with a camera applied, Fig. 15 is a perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 14 with walking sticks applied,

Fig. 16 is an exploded perspective view from above of a connector according to an alternative use,

Fig. 17 is perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 16 in an upside down state.

Fig. 18 is perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 17 with a smart phone applied, Fig. 19 is perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 17 with a system camera applied,

Fig. 20 is a front view of a user, wherein the arrangement is provided in a non-operative state,

Fig. 21A is a perspective view of a connection means for fixing a hand grip of the walking stick to a hip belt of the backpack,

Fig. 21 B is a perspective view of the connection means in fig. 21 A in a first assembly position relative to the walking stick,

Fig. 21 C is a perspective view of the connection means in fig. 21 B in a second assembly position relative to the walking stick and the hip belt,

Fig. 21 D is a perspective view of the connection means in fig. 21 C in a third assembly position relative to the walking stick and the hip belt,

Fig. 21 E is a perspective view of the connection means in fig. 21 D in a third assembly position relative to the walking stick and the hip belt,

Fig. 22 is a perspective view from the side of a user while hiking with the arrangement setup according to a further alternative, wherein the walking sticks are fixed to the hip belt according to fig. 21 E and the camera position may be adjusted manually via the cord, Fig. 23 is a perspective view from the side of a user while climbing with the arrangement setup according to the further alternative, wherein the walking sticks are fixed to the hip belt according to fig. 21 E and the hands are free for climbing,

Fig. 24 is a perspective view from the side of a user with the arrangement setup according to fig. 1 , wherein adjustability of an angular position of the camera is disclosed,

Fig. 25 is a perspective view from the side of a user with the arrangement setup according to an alternative to fig. 1,

Fig. 26 is a perspective view from the side of a user with the arrangement setup according to an alternative to fig. 22,

Fig. 27 is perspective view from the side of the arrangement setup in a freestanding state, Fig. 28A discloses a connection means in a front perspective view for fixing a hand grip of the walking stick to a hip belt of the backpack on a right hand side according to an alternative embodiment relative to the one shown in fig. 21A-E,

Fig. 28B discloses the connection means in fig. 28A in a rear perspective view,

Fig. 28C discloses a connection means similar to fig. 28A in a front perspective view for fixing a hand grip of the walking stick to a hip belt of the backpack on a left hand side, Fig. 28D discloses the connection means in fig. 28C in a rear perspective view, Fig. 29 is a perspective view from the side of a user while hiking with the arrangement setup according to fig. 28A-D,

Fig. 30A is a perspective view of the connector according to an alternative embodiment comprising adapter tubes for connecting the walking sticks,

Fig. 30B is a perspective view of an adapter tube according to fig. 30A,

Fig. 31A is a perspective view of the connector comprising adapter tubes according to a further alternative embodiment for connecting the walking sticks,

Fig. 31 B is a perspective view of an adapter tube according to fig. 31 A,

Fig. 32A is a perspective view of the connector comprising adapter tubes according to a still further alternative embodiment for connecting the walking sticks,

Fig. 32B is a perspective view of an adapter tube according to fig. 32A, and Fig. 33 is an exploded view of the connector according to fig. 30A.

DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF EXAMPLE EMBODIMENTS

Fig. 1 is a perspective view from the side of a user 2 while hiking with an arrangement 4 for positioning a camera 6 relative to the user 2 according to a first embodiment. Fig. 2 is a view from behind of the user 2 according to fig. 1 and fig. 3 is a view of a field of vision of the camera according to fig. 1, se dotted lines in fig. 1.

The arrangement 4 comprises an elongated support device 8 that is adapted for securing the camera 6 at a first end 10 in its longitudinal direction. The elongated support device 8 is adapted to be hand manoeuvred by the user 2 at a second end 12 opposite the first end 10 allowing control of a position of the camera 6 by the user 4 via the hand manoeuvring. The arrangement 4 further comprises a camera position limiting member 14 that is adapted to be connected to the elongated support device 8 at a first connection point 16 at a distance from the second end 12 and to the user 2 at a second connection point 18, 20, wherein a length of the camera position limiting member 14 in an extension direction between the first connection point 16 and the second connection point 18, 20 defines a limit for the camera position.

More specifically, the camera position limiting member 14 is adapted to be connected to the elongated support device 8 at the first connection point 16 in the vicinity of the first end 10 of the elongated support device 8. The elongated support device 8 comprises two spaced hand grip portions 22, 24 adapted for a simultaneous manoeuvring of the second end 12 by the user's right hand 26 and the user's left hand 28.

The elongated support device 8 comprises a connector 30 and at least one elongated rigid member 32, 34, wherein the connector 30 comprises a first connection structure 36 for a rigid attachment of the camera 6 and a second connection structure 38 for a rigid attachment of a first end 40, 42 of the at least one elongated rigid member 32, 34, see more details in fig. 9A, 9B and 9C.

More specifically, the elongated support device comprises two elongated rigid members 32, 34, wherein each one of the two elongated rigid members comprises one of the grip portions 22, 24, and the connector's second connection structure 38 is adapted for a rigid attachment of the first end 40, 42 of each one of the two elongated rigid members 32, 34. The two elongated rigid members 32, 34 are arranged in a diverging configuration away from the connector 30 so that the grip portions 22, 24 of the two elongated rigid members 32, 34 may be manoeuvred at either side of the user 2. More specifically, according to the operational state shown, the at least one rigid elongated member 32, 34 is oriented in a direction from the connector 30 towards a position at the user's hip/waist.

The at least one elongated rigid member 32, 34 comprises a walking stick, wherein the walking stick is connected to the connector 30 at the first end 40, 42 of the walking stick adapted for ground engagement.

The connector 30 further comprises a third connection structure 44 defining the first connection point 16 for the camera position limiting member 14. More specifically, the camera position limiting member 14 is adapted to be connected to the user at two second connection points 18, 20 that are spaced from each other in a width direction of the user. More specifically, the camera position limiting member 14 may be oriented in a direction from the connector 30 towards a position at the user's shoulders.

More specifically, the camera position limiting member 14 comprises two sections 46, 48 that may be arranged in a diverging configuration in a direction away from the first connection point 16 in the vicinity of the camera 6. The camera position limiting member 14 comprises a cord 50 extending between the first connection point 16 and the second connection points 18, 20. According to the shown example, one single cord 50 is arranged so that it forms both sections 46, 48.

Fig. 4 is a perspective view from the side of the arrangement 4 in fig. 1 associated to a backpack 52 indicating adjustability for different camera positions via the cord 50 that has an adjustable length. According to the first embodiment, the cord 50 is rigidly attached at one end at the second connection point 18 at a first shoulder strap 54 of the backpack. Further, the cord runs via a loop in the form of a snap-hook 56, see further details in fig. 11, that is arranged in the vicinity of the camera 6 to the second connection point 20 at a second shoulder strap 58 of the backpack. The cord 50 is adjustably arranged in relation to the second connection point 20 at the second shoulder strap 58. Accordingly, the cord extends past the second connection point 20 at the second shoulder strap 58 for allowing extension in length between the first connection point 16 and the second connection point 18, 20. The arrows in parallel with the cord extension indicates the adjustability in length of the cord 50. The curved arrows on each side of the camera 6 indicates a corresponding movement of the camera 6. The backpack 52 comprises loops that are rigidly connected to the shoulder straps for forming the second connection points 18, 20.

Fig. 5 is a side view of the arrangement 4 in fig. 4 schematically indicating the adjustability of the camera position limiting member 14. An extension of the cord 50 would result in that the camera 6 would end up in a lower position, whereas a shortening of the cord 50 would result in that the camera 6 would end up in a higher position (provided the first end 12 of the elongated support device 4 is in a constant position in height).

Fig. 6 is a side view of the arrangement in fig. 1 schematically indicating adjustability for different camera positions via manually angling the walking stick 32 while a length of the cord 50 is constant.

Accordingly, a length of the camera position limiting member 14 in an extension direction between the first connection point 16 and the second connection point 18, 20 defines a limit for the camera position. It may be noted that the camera 6 may be brought closer to the user 2 for some time by hand-maneouvring the walking sticks 32, 34, wherein the cord 50 may slack. In such an operational state, the cord will be inoperative, ie not supporting the camera 6.

The camera position limiting member 14 is adapted to be arranged in an operative extended state, in which it is capable of limiting the camera position, and in a nonoperative non-extended state. Accordingly, the cord 50 may be folded in the nonoperative state. A section of the cord 50 that is in the non-operative state may be arranged in a pocket 60, see fig. 4.

Fig. 7 is a view of the walking stick 32 comprised in the arrangement in fig. 1 , wherein the walking stick 32 is foldable, see arrows. The walking stick comprises three parts 62, 63, 64, wherein the parts 62, 63, 64 are connected via a cord 67, wherein the three parts 62, 63, 64 may be arranged in parallel with each other and adjacent each other in a folded state. A first one 62 of the walking stick parts, that is provided with the hand grip portion 22 is extendable in length, see arrow. The walking stick part 62 is provided with a release and lock function for allowing extendability and locking the walking stick part 62 at a desired length. According to one example, the walking stick length is adjustable in an interval of 105-140 cm.

Fig. 8 is a view of a walking stick 32’ according to an alternative embodiment, wherein the walking stick is extendable in length, see arrows. The walking stick 32’ is of a telescopic type for allowing the extendability. The walking stick 32’ is provided with a release and lock function for allowing extendability and locking the walking stick 32’ at a desired length. According to one example, the walking stick length is adjustable in an interval of 50-145 cm.

Fig. 9A is a perspective view from above of the connector 30 comprised in the arrangement 4 in fig. 1. Fig. 9B is a top view of the connector 30 in fig. 9A and Fig. 9C is a side view of the connector in fig. 9A. Further, fig. 10 is an exploded view of the connector 30 in fig. 9A.

The connector 30 comprises a body 66 provided with the first connection structure 36 defining a substantially flat surface for engagement with a camera mount. The body 66 is further provided with the second connection structure 38 in the form of at least one opening 38 for receiving the first end 40, 42 of the at least one elongated rigid member 32, 34. More specifically, the body 66 is provided with two spaced openings 38. The two spaced openings 38 have longitudinal directions that are straight and inclined in relation to one another. It creates conditions for using straight walking sticks and achieving a diverging configuration for arranging the hand grip portions 22, 24 at either side of the user.

The openings 38 are adapted for a rigid attachment of the first end 40, 42 of each one of two elongated rigid members 32, 34 adapted for a simultaneous manoeuvring of the second end by the user's right hand and the user's left hand. More specifically, the openings 38 of the connector 30 are adapted for being connected to the walking sticks 32, 34 at an end 40, 42 of the walking stick adapted for ground engagement. Since the end 40, 42 of the walking stick adapted for ground engagement has a tapering shape towards its free end, also the openings 38 have a tapering shape towards an inner end.

The flat surface the first connection structure 36 is provided on an external surface of the body 66. More specifically, the flat surface is arranged generally in parallel with the plane defining the openings 38 or with a small angle, such as in an interval of 1-45°, relative to the plane defining the openings 38.

The third connection structure 44 of the connector 30 defining a first connection point 16 for the camera position limiting member 14 comprises a U-shaped opening 44, wherein the U-shaped opening 44 faces substantially in the same direction as the openings 38 for the walking sticks. More specifically, the U-shaped opening 44 is provided between the openings 38 for the walking sticks. More specifically, the U-shaped opening 44 and the openings 38 extend in the same plane.

The body 66 comprises two pieces, in this case two halves 68, 70, see fig. 10. The body halves 68, 70 define a plane interface extending through the openings 38, 40. Further, each one of the body halves 68, 70 is provided with a hole pattern 72, 74 extending in a transverse direction relative to the plane interface, wherein the hole patterns 72, 74 have the same configurations so that the individual holes meet when the body halves are joined together. Further, each one of the body halves 68, 70 is provided with a matching projection and recess 76, 78 for steering the body halves 68, 70 relative one another to a state where the hole patterns 72, 74 meet. Further, a plurality of screws 80 and nuts 82 are provided corresponding to the hole patterns 72, 74 for securing the body halves 68, 70 together.

Fig. 11 is a perspective view from above of the connector 30 in fig. 9A with a cord section 84 and snap-hook 56 applied. The cord section 84 forms a closed loop extending through the U-shaped opening 44 in the connector 30. The snap-hook 56 is applied on the cord section 84 so that it may run freely along the cord section 84.

Fig. 12 is a perspective view from above of the connector 30 in fig. 11 with a first part 86 of a camera mount applied to the first connection structure 36. The first connection structure 36 comprises a substantially flat surface and the first part 86 of the camera mount comprises a similar substantially flat surface, wherein the first part 86 of the camera mount may be applied to the first connection structure 36 via an adhesive. The first part 86 of the camera mount is provided with releasable connection means 90, 92.

Fig. 13 is a perspective view from above of the connector 30 in fig. 12 with a second part 88 of a camera mount applied to the first part 86 of the camera mount., The second part 88 is provided with a portion adapted to fit with the releasable connection means 90, 92 for a rigid attachment. More specifically, the releasable connection means 90, 92 comprises two mirrored projections, wherein a reception is formed between the projections for receipt of the corresponding portion of the second part 88.

Further, the second part 88 of the camera mount comprises means 94 for a rigid attachment of the camera 6. The camera attachment means 94 comprises a plurality of upwards projecting plate shaped portions arranged in parallel with and spaced from each other. Each one of the plate shaped portions comprises a through hole and the through holes are arranged in line for receipt of an anchoring screw.

Fig. 14 is a perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 13 with a camera 6 applied. The camera 6 comprises a structure of downwards projecting plate shaped portions arranged in parallel with and spaced each other for being fitted between the plate shaped portions of the camera attachment means 94. Each one of the plate shaped portions of the camera comprises a through hole and the through holes are arranged in line for receipt of the anchoring screw 95. Accordingly, the camera may be rigidly attached to the camera mount via a screw connection. Further, the anchoring screw 95 forms a pivot axis for arranging the camera in different angular positions, see also fig. 24.

Fig. 15 is a perspective view from above of the connector in fig. 14 with the walking sticks 32, 34 applied.

Fig. 16 is an exploded perspective view from above of the connector 30 according to an alternative use. The connector 30 comprises a central through hole 96 extending through the first connection structure 36. The central through hole 96 is adapted for receipt of a screw 98 in a way that a free end 100 of the screw 98 is exposed on an opposite side of the connector 30 relative to a screw head 102. More specifically, the threads of the free end 100 of the screw 98 are exposed on an opposite side of the connector 30. Further, the central through hole 96 is adapted for receipt of the screw head 102 in a recessed way so that it does not project from the upper flat surface of the connector 30. Further, the central through hole 96 and the screw head 102 are adapted for rotationally fixing the screw 98 relative to the connector 30. More specifically, the screw head 102 has a hexagonal shape and a first end of the through hole 96 has a matching hexagonal shape. Further, the central through hole 96 is provided with a support surface for supporting an axially facing surface 104 of the screw head in order to maintain the screw 98 in a desired axial position in the through hole 96. The first part 86 of the camera mount may be applied to the first connection structure 36 thereby maintaining the screw 98 in the through hole 96.

Fig. 17 is perspective view from above of the connector 30 in fig. 16 in an upside down state, wherein the free end 100 of the screw 98 is exposed.

Fig. 18 is perspective view from above of the connector 30 in fig. 17 with a smart phone 106 applied. More specifically, a smart phone holder 108 is adapted for engagement with the screw 98. Fig. 19 is perspective view from above of the connector 30 in fig. 17 with a system camera 110 applied. A system camera holder 112 is adapted for engagement with the screw 98.

Fig. 20 is a front view of the user 2, wherein the arrangement 4 is provided in a nonoperative state. The camera 6 is mounted to the connector 30. Further, the cord 50 forming the camera position limiting member 14 is connected to the connector 30 at the first connection point 16. Further, the cord 50 is connected to the user 2 at the second connection points 18, 20. Further, the camera 6, the connector 30 and a main part of the cord 50 arranged in the pocket 60. Thus, the cord 50 is in a non-operative state. Further, the walking sticks 32, 34 are in a non-operative state with regard to the camera positioning, wherein the user 2 grab the hiking sticks 32, 34 via the hand grip portions 22, 24 in a way that the opposite free ends 40, 42 are pointing towards the ground for ground engagement.

The arrangement 4 may quickly and easily be setup to the operational state from the non- operational state shown in fig. 20 by picking up the camera from the pocket 60, manually connecting the walking sticks 32, 34 (see fig. 15) and then pushing the camera 6 via the walking sticks 32, 34 backwards and upwards from a front side of the user 2 until the camera position limiting member 14 (the cord 50) is fully extended and thereby limits any further movement backwards/upwards. In this way, the camera 6 may be moved to its operational position behind the user (as seen in fig. 1) in an easy way. Accordingly, disassembly of the arrangement 4 from its operational state to its non-operational state may be performed with a reversed set of steps.

Fig. 21A is a perspective view of a connection means 114 for fixing a hand grip portion 22 of the walking stick 32 to a hip belt 116 of the backpack 52. Fig 21 B, fig. 21 C, fig. 21 D and fig. 21 E shows consecutive steps for assemblying the connection means 114. The connection means 114 a strap structure of an elastic material, such as rubber. The connection means 114 forms a seat 120 for supporting a free end of the hand grip portion 22 of the walking stick 32. The connection means 114 is further adapted to firmly connect the hand grip portion 22 of the walking stick 32 to the hip belt 115 by being wrapped around the hand grip portion 22 and the hip belt 115.

The connection means 114 comprises two straps 116, 118 that are joined in a cross wise relationship. More specifically, a first strap 116 has a longer length than a second strap 118. The first strap 116 is arranged with a curved portion 122, that connects two elongated portions 124, 126, wherein a first one 124 of the elongated portions has a longer length than the second portion 126. The first strap 116 has generally the shape of a II and extends generally in parallel with a first plane. Further, the second strap 118 is arranged with a curved portion 128, that connects two elongated portions 130, 132 of equal length. The second strap 118 has generally the shape of a II and extends generally in parallel with a second plane that is perpendicular to the first plane. The first strap 116 and the second strap 118 are joined together in two joining areas that are formed at the intersections of the elongated portions 124, 126 of the first strap 116 and the elongated portions 130, 132 of the second strap 118. The first strap 116 and the second strap 118 may be joined together via an adhesive.

In fig. 21 B, the hand grip portion 22 is arranged so that an end surface 132 is in contact with an inner surface of the curved portion 128 of the second strap 118. Further, the hand grip portion 22 is arranged so that a circumferential peripheral surface 134 is in contact with an inner surface of the curved portion 122 of the first strap 116.

In fig. 21C, the walking stick 32 is manoeuvred so that the hand grip portion 22 is in the vicinity of the hip belt 115 at a right hand side thereof. In fig. 21 D, the longer elongated portion 124 of the first strap 116 is wound around both the hand grip portion 22 and the hip belt 115 and in fig. 21 E, the two elongated portions 124, 126 of the first strap 116 are tied together in a knot thereby firmly connecting the hand grip portion 22 and the hip belt 115 in a loop formed by the longer elongated portion 124 of the first strap 116.

Fig. 22 is a perspective view from the side of the user 2 while hiking with the arrangement setup according to the alternative indicated in fig. 21 E, wherein the walking sticks 32, 34 are fixed to the hip belt 115 and the camera position may be adjusted manually via the cord 50 by hand manouevreing from a position in front of the user 2.

Fig. 23 is a perspective view from the side of the user 2 while climbing with the arrangement setup according to the further alternative, wherein the walking sticks 32, 34 are fixed to the hip belt 115 according to fig. 21 E and the hands are free for climbing.

Fig. 24 is a perspective view from the side of a user 2 with the arrangement setup according to fig. 1 , wherein adjustability of an angular position of the camera is disclosed. The user may bring the camera within reach via manoeuvring the walking sticks 32, 34, adjust the angle of the camera relative to the connector manually and then push the camera back to its intended operational position. According to an alternative, a companion may adjust the angle of the camera relative to the connector manually while the camera is in its intended operational position. Fig. 25 is a perspective view from the side of a user with the arrangement setup according to an alternative to fig. 1. For ease of presentation, only the main differences of the arrangement relative to the one shown in fig. 1 will be described. The camera position limiting member 214 is adapted to be connected to the user at a single connection point 218. The single connection point 218 is provided at a central position of the user in his width direction. More specifically, the single connection point 218 is provided at a central position of an equipment 252 in the form of a backpack carried by the user 2. More specifically, the single connection point 218 is formed by a loop associated to the equipment 252. The loop forming the single connection point 218 is provided at an upper surface of the backpack in the vicinity of the user's shoulders.

Further, the camera position limiting member 214 comprises a single section 246 of a cord 250 extending between the first connection point 16 at the connector 30 and the second connection point 218 at the user. Thus, the cord 250 runs in the loop forming the single connection point 218 at the user. A free end of the cord may be formed in a loop or tied to form a loop, that is received in the snap-hook 56.

A further loop 220 is arranged on one shoulder strap of the equipment 252 for guiding the cord 250. Thus, the cord 250 runs in a direction from the snap-hook 56 to the loop forming the single connection point 218, further to the loop 220 of the shoulder strap and further to a front side of the user, wherein the user may adjust the camera position via the cord 250 in a similar way as has been described above in association with fig. 22.

Fig. 26 is a perspective view from the side of a user with the arrangement setup according to an alternative to fig. 22. For ease of presentation, only the main differences of the arrangement relative to the one shown in fig. 22 will be described. The arrangement comprises an equipment in the form of a hip belt 315. The camera position limiting member 314 is adapted to be connected to the connector 30 at a first connection point 16 and to the hip belt 315 at a second connection point 318, 320. More specifically, the camera position limiting member 314 is adapted to be connected to the user at two second connection points 318, 320 that are spaced from each other in an extension direction of the hip belt 315. More specifically, each one of the two second connection points 318, 320 is associated to one of the connection means 114. More specifically, the camera position limiting member 314 comprises two sections 346, 348 that may be arranged in a diverging configuration in a direction away from the first connection point 16 in the vicinity of the camera 6. More specifically, the camera position limiting member 314 comprises a cord 350 extending between the first connection point 16 and the second connection points 318, 320. According to the shown example, one single cord 50 is arranged so that it forms both sections 346, 348. More specifically, the camera position limiting member 314 is oriented so that each one of the cord sections 346, 348 rests on one of the user's shoulders, wherein the cord sections 346, 348 change directions at the user's shoulders. A free end of each one of the cord sections 346, 348 may be tied to the hip belt 315 and/or the connection means 114 for the walking sticks 32, 34.

Fig. 27 is perspective view from the side of the arrangement 4 as in fig. 1 setup in a freestanding state. In other words, the arrangement 4 works as a portable Tripod. The elongated support device 8 comprising the walking sticks 32, 34 is connected at one end to the camera 6 via the connector 30. The hand grip portions 22, 24 rest on the ground in a spaced relationship, wherein the walking sticks 32, 34 thereby form two out of three tripod legs. The camera position limiting member 14 comprising the cord 50 is connected at one end to the camera 6 via the connector 30 and to the equipment 52 at an opposite end thus making up the third tripod leg.

The equipment 52, here in the form of the backpack, rests on the ground. The walking sticks 32, 34 lean away from the backpack. Further, the arrangement of the cord 50 is adapted so that the backpack forms an anchor weight for the camera. Alternatively, instead of using the backpack as an anchoring weight, the cord 50 can be attached to the ground by a tent peg, or by standing on it with a foot or holding it in your hand. Or alternatively, the connector, the two walking sticks and the camera can be leaned against something, like a tree or rock.

Fig. 28A discloses a first connection means 414 in a front perspective view for fixing a hand grip of the walking stick to a hip belt 114 of the backpack on a right hand side of the user according to an alternative embodiment relative to the one shown in fig. 21A-E. In other words, the first connection means 414 is in fig. 28A shown in a view facing outwards when arranged in an operational state on the hip belt 114. Fig. 28B discloses the first connection means 414 in fig. 28A in a rear perspective view. In other words, the connection means 414 is in fig. 28B shown in a view facing inwards towards a user when arranged in the operational state.

The first connection means 414 comprises a holder 416 adapted for receipt of the hand grip portion 22 of the walking stick 32. The holder 416 is in the form of a sleeve that is adapted to be attached to the hip belt 115, wherein the sleeve has a closed end 418 and an open end 420. The open end 420 is adapted for receipt of the hand grip portion 22. The closed end 418 forms an end stop for the hand grip portion 22 relative to the sleeve. The sleeve may be formed in a fabric. A longitudinal direction of the sleeve is defined as an extension direction between the open end 420 and the closed end 418.

The first connection means 414 comprises a first adjustable strap 422 that is attached to the sleeve 416. The first adjustable strap 422 is arranged in a transverse direction relative to the longitudinal direction of the sleeve 416. More specifically, the strap 422 forms a loop around the sleeve 416. The first adjustable strap 422 may be used to tighten the sleeve 416 around the hand grip portion 22. Accordingly, the sleeve 416 may be somewhat oversized in relation to a dimension of the associated end of the elongated rigid element. It creates conditions for using walking sticks of different sizes. More specifically, a first end 424 of the strap 422 is attached to a buckle 426 and an opposite, free end 428 of the strap 422 extends through two openings in the buckle in a way that a length of the loop of the strap 422 may be adjusted and set in a desired length.

Further, the first adjustable strap 422 is attached to the sleeve 416 by means of a fastener strap 430 that extends in the longitudinal direction of the sleeve 416 and thereby crosswise relative to an extension direction of the first adjustable strap 422. The first adjustable strap 422 is fastened to the sleeve 416 in two spaced attachment areas. The fastener strap 430 may be fastened to the sleeve 416 by means of stitches in the attachment areas. The fastener strap 430 and the adjacent portion of the sleeve thereby forms an opening for receipt of the first adjustable strap 422 in a way that the first strap is movable relative to the sleeve in an extension direction of the strap.

Further, the first adjustable strap 422 is arranged in such a way relative to the sleeve 416 that the first adjustable strap 422 at least along a portion of its length runs free in relation to the sleeve 416. More specifically, the first adjustable strap 422 runs free along a portion of its length on a rear side of the sleeve 416, see figure 28B. Accordingly, the connection means 414 may be connected to the hip belt by inserting a free end of the hip belt 115 between the first adjustable strap 422 and the sleeve 416. The connection means 414 is adapted so that it may be pivoted relative to the hip belt 115 in an operational state. More specifically, the longitudinal direction of the sleeve 416 may be inclined in relation to an extension direction of the hip belt 115, see fig. 29.

Further, the first connection means 414 comprises a second adjustable strap 432 that is attached to the sleeve 416 in a way that it extends generally in the longitudinal direction of the sleeve 416. A first end 434 of the strap 432 is attached to a buckle 436 that in turn is attached to the sleeve 416 and an opposite end 438 of the strap 432 is attached to a latch 440. More specifically, the buckle is adapted for allowing an adjustment of a length of the second strap 432. The latch 440 has a through opening 442 and a spring-loaded member 444 that is urged to a closed state and pivotable to an open state for accessing the through opening 442. When assemblying the connection means 414 to the backpack, the latch 440 is pivoted from its closed state so that a shoulder strap 58 of the backpack may be received in the through opening 442. In an operational state, the connection means 414 is maintained in a desired position along the hip belt and forms a proper support for the walking stick thanks to the connection of the second strap 432 to the shoulder strap, see figure 29.

Fig. 28C discloses a first connection means 514 similar to the first connection means 414 described above in association to fig. 28A and fig. 28B in a front perspective view for fixing a hand grip portion 32 of the walking stick 22 to the hip belt of the backpack on a left hand side of the user and fig. 28D discloses the connection means 514 in fig. 28C in a rear perspective view. The first connection means 514 for the left hand side has a design that is similar to, but has a mirrored configuration in relation to, the connection means 414 for the left hand side.

Fig. 29 is a perspective view from the side of a user while hiking with the arrangement setup according to fig. 28A-D. Thus, each one of the connection means 414, 514 is connected to the backpack on either side of the user and the hand grip portions 22, 24 are received in the respective sleeve of the connection means 414, 514. According to an alternative, the first connection means 414, 514 may form an integral part of the hip belt 115. According to one such example, the hip belt may be designed with the holder.

According to the embodiment described above, see fig. 15, the openings 38 in the connector 30 for receipt of the free ends 40, 42 of the walking sticks 32, 34 are designed to tightly fit in direct contact with the free ends 40, 42 of the walking sticks 32, 34 for a secure connection. According to one alternative, the openings in the connector 30 may be designed with a larger size for fitting an adapter tube inside the respective opening. Thus, an outer size and dimension of a set of adapter tubes are the same for a tight fit directly in contact with the opening in the connector. Further, an interior opening in the adapter tubes in the set of adapter tubes differs in different tubes for matching walking sticks of different designs. Accordingly, the adapter tubes may be designed for specific walking sticks.

Fig. 30A is a perspective view of a connector 230 according to an alternative embodiment comprising adapter tubes 232 for connecting the walking sticks. The connector 230 is designed with openings of a sufficient size for fitting the adapter tubes 232 inside the respective opening.

Fig. 30B is a perspective view of the adapter tube 232 according to fig. 30A. The adapter tube 232 may be formed in rubber. The adapter tube 232 comprises an internal structure 234 of flexible members 236 that is adapted to engage with the free ends of the walking sticks. The internal structure 234 comprises a plurality of circumferentially spaced flexible members in the form of ribs. The adapter tube 232 comprises two tubes 233, 235 that are joined to form a one-piece unit. The two tubes 233, 235 may be joined by means of an adhesive, such as glue. The ribs are formed in one piece with the inner tube 235. Thanks to the flexibility, the adapter tube may receive a free end of the walking stick of different dimensions. Further, the outer tube 233 comprises an external structure 238 of radially projecting members 240 that are adapted to engage with a complimentary shaped internal structure 242 in the connector openings, see fig. 33. The external structure 238 comprises a plurality of radially projecting members 240 spaced in an extension direction of the outer tube 233. More specifically, the external structure 238 comprises two sets of circumferentially spaced rows of radially projecting members 240. According to an alternative to that the adapter tube 232 comprises two tubes 233, 235 that are joined to form a one-piece unit, the adapter tube 232 may be formed in a single tube.

Fig. 31A is a perspective view of the connector 230 comprising adapter tubes 332 for connecting walking sticks of a first predetermined dimension. Fig. 31 B is a perspective view of the adapter tube 332 according to fig. 31 A. Fig. 32A is a perspective view of the connector 230 comprising adapter tubes 432 for connecting walking sticks of a second predetermined dimension. Fig. 32B is a perspective view of the adapter tube 432 according to fig. 32A.

The adapter tube 332 comprises an outer tube 233 as has been described above and an inner tube 335 of a first thickness. The adapter tube 432 comprises an outer tube 233 as has been described above and an inner tube 435 of a second thickness, that is greater than the first thickness. Accordingly, the adapter tube 332 in fig. 31 A and 31 B is adapted for engagement with a walking stick with a free end that has a larger crosswise dimension than a walking stick adapted for the adapter tube 432 in fig. 32A and 32B.

Fig. 33 is an exploded view of the connector 230 according to fig. 30A. Similar to the embodiment described above, the connector 230 comprises a body 266 that comprises two pieces, in this case two halves 268, 270. As mentioned above, the openings have sufficient size for fitting the adapter tubes 232, 332, 432 inside the respective opening. The openings in each one of the two halves 268, 270 comprises an internal structure 242 in the form of a row of spaced depressions 242 for engagement of the complimentary shaped row of projections in the adapter tube for a secure engagement of the adapter tube in the connector.

It is to be understood that the present invention is not limited to the embodiments described above and illustrated in the drawings; rather, the skilled person will recognize that many changes and modifications may be made within the scope of the appended claims.

According to one alternative to the embodiment described above with reference to fig. 30A, 30B, 31 A, 31 B, 32A, 32B , a pair of universal adapter tubes can be used. These universal adapter tubes comprises an outer tube section of a heat resistant material, and an inner tube section of a material which becomes soft and moldable when heated above a certain threshold temperature (such as in boiling water). Accordingly, the universal tubes may be heated in a first step, then pressed on to the ends of the walking sticks in a second, consecutive step, then cooled down and solidified in a third consecutive step, and then put in the openings in the connector in a fourth consecutive step.

The arrangement has been described above and shown in the figures in a state connected to the user, wherein the camera is behind the user for creating an image of the surroundings in front of the user's head while he or she may be facing away from the camera. The arrangement may of course alternatively be set up in a state connected to the user, wherein the camera is in front of the user for creating an image of the surroundings in behind the user's head while he or she may face the camera.

The term "camera" is frequently used in this application referring to a so-called action camera, ie a compact digital camera designed for recording action. It should however be appreciated that the term "camera" should be interpreted to include anything capable of capturing an image, such as a film camera, a digital camera, a motion picture camera, system camera, a video camera, a picture phone, and/or a video phone.